• I don't know if the road/pavement is wide enough to fit one but it would be like this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_1JHiGoKK0

    My own view is that while people currently look at them and think "ooo looks different, I'm unsure about that" we are building for the future and the more common these layouts become the more people(pedestrians+cyclists+drivers) will understand them and navigate them well. People say about "going dutch" and then when you visit amsterdam as a tourist it's in all the guides to not just stroll along in the cycle paths, how do you get that if afraid to build the paths?

  • Christ, that is awful.

    Not even enough space for peds near the bus stop.

    If they really want to "go dutch" then the cycle path should be wide enough to comfortably overtake with enough room for error.

    Which translated into a normal lane that's a car width.

    Only lane I like were the bus lane, before they allow taxis and motorcyclists on it.

  • If they really want to "go dutch" then the cycle path should be wide enough to comfortably overtake with enough room for error.

    I don't want to be too negative - I'm glad TFL are doing something even though it always seems a bit shit, as it might be easier to get existing infrastructure improved than it is to get it installed in the first place - but when I watched that video all I could think about was the nice wide cycle paths in other countries. You know the ones where you see parents riding along with their little kids wobbling beside them.

    I can't imagine anybody taking their kids for a fun little ride along CS2 or the Oval clusterfuck for myriad reasons, and the fact that the fully segregated bits (arguably supposed to be the most family-friendly sections) are so narrow and horrible is just depressing.

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