Which Groupset?

I hope you were subtle when you told Johnny 5 you were going to disassemble him.

I'm no faster on 53:39 than I am on 50:34.. Anyone who thinks they need anything bigger than a 50:12 (109" is huge) for general riding is either a hero or willy waving... Or just needs to learn to pedal.

The real benefit of proper road doubles is that you can use the small ring for more than just bailing out on hills and spread the chainring wear out a bit. You get to spend more time in the middle of the block too.

im guilty of just using the small ring to bail out on the hills.

Not buying the chainring wear issue though.. If you spend more time in the middle of the block by using both rings wont you just wear out the middle block quicker?

(I ride 50,34)

Well, no not really. Middle of the block means the chain, cassette and chainrings should wear slower as the chainline will be straight most of the time. Also more efficient, less noisy etc.

It's personal though I suppose. I prefer to change the front more often than be up and down the block all the time - that bike (53:39) does have di2 though, so front shifts are no more effort than a rear.

Besides cassettes last fucking ages if you actually stay on top of chain wear.

I'm a willy waving hero with evening classes of Pedaling for Beginners booked for next month.

*World champs not included love.

None of your riding qualifies as 'general riding'.. even the most general of your riding falls firmly in the 'mental' category.

I ride with a semi these days anyway (ooh nurse).

hello sailor!

Well, most of the time...

What's the go to budget wheelset these days for shimano tenspeed?

I'm tentatively looking about for a nice, tradition looking rear mech for use with shimano 8 speed thumbies or trigger shifters and probably a wide range rear cassette. Obviously second hand / nos, but ideally nothing that will break the bank.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/shimano-rs11-road-wheelset/rp-prod112038?gs=1&gclid=CjwKEAjwzuisBRClgJnI4_a96zwSJACAEZKecPG6LVY4_jbZ6mZ7hPQLwUx2ezE1L0QVoKIEXBFLHBoCakTw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

cheers dude.

This 100%.

Except the bit about 52/53x11t being useless. That's 60kph @ 100rpm. I use this often and I'm not fast (ftp 240ish, 60kg).

Claris? granted it's grey but smart looking all the same.

I'm guilty of just using the small ring to bail out on the hills.

Once people realised it's cheaper to replaced the inner ring than the outer, they wouldn't succumb to peer pressure;

One bottle cage, good.

Boss chainring.

I always ride with 1 bottle; most people are happy to refill it ..

50/35 with 12-25 (11 sp) is where its at.

^^^ matching seatpost, nice

Claris?

I did think about that but it's for an 80's mixte with a mishmash of suntour bits so I'd rather something a bit more aesthetically suitable.

Plus on the pretty vs practical scale looks are important.

Either try and get a Tiagra derailleur as cheap as possible;

or the SunXCD from Freshtripe;

Cornering on that bottom one must be fun...