• Whey+milk...

    ... seems excessive: babies get all they need from milk alone and studies demonstrate that choccy milkshake is on a par with commercial recovery drinks.

    Protein supplements are for bodybuilders, not cyclists.

    I can get a three tins of pilchards, or two of tuna, from my pound shop: no need for fish oil supplements either.

  • ... seems excessive

    It's not excessive if you need x grams of protein, measured.

    babies get all they need from milk alone and studies demonstrate that choccy milkshake is on a par with commercial recovery drinks

    How are those breast milk smoothies working out for you?

    Protein supplements are for bodybuilders, not cyclists.

    If you're training you are 'body building'.

    I can get a three tins of pilchards, or two of tuna, from my pound shop: no need for fish oil supplements either.

    A bottle of cod liver oil tablets costs less than a quid. The quantity and quality of research into fish oils is massive and dates back to the 70s. It's not a fad diet. Most of the stuff I've read concludes even a very good western diet falls well short of the optimum amounts. The truth is your diet is more the product of culture and industry since ww2 than human evolution a diseased mind ;-)

    [edit] I just read your recipe [edit]

  • Protein supplements are for bodybuilders, not cyclists.

    I'm building my Förstemann thighs...

  • It's not excessive if you need x grams of protein, measured.

    Quite. I warrant that there aren't a dozen people on here, who couldn't achieve adequate dietary protein if they calculated their need.

    How are those breast milk smoothies working out for you?

    Kinky. Milk is a complete food and has been demonstrated to at least equal recovery drinks.

    Evolution 1 : 0 Industry.

    If you're training you are 'body building'.

    True, but not aiming for hypertrophy (Yukirin excepted).

    A bottle of cod liver oil tablets costs less than a quid. The quantity and quality of research into fish oils is massive and dates back to the 70s. It's not a fad diet.

    Apologies. I didn't mean to suggest that fish oil was bunkum; rather that if you eat the source food, there is no need for the refined supplement.

    Most of the stuff I've read concludes even a very good western diet falls well short of the optimum amounts.

    So don't eat a Western diet. If you have a poor diet, surely it makes more sense to change it rather than continue with your poor choices, supplementing them with er... supplements?

    Apart from the expense, supplements only add the good stuff, not remove the crap we'd be better off not eating in the first place.

    The truth is our [modern] diet is more the product of commerce and the Industrial Revolution than human evolution. Well I'm glad we could, at least, agree on that. :)

    And if my mind is diseased (which I don't dispute), it's the product of a krypto-fascist, industrial complex; the sole objective of which is the subjugation of free will and the rights of the common man, through the agency of chicken nuggets and pop tarts.

  • A bottle of cod liver oil tablets costs less than a quid

    Really? Fish oil isn't something you want to cut costs on.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_oil#Supplement_quality_and_concerns

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