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Sorry Skydancer but just looks like another thread about the negatives of cycling - calling out bad ones, commuting horror stories, crap driving, terrible infrastructure, etc. (and I would include a lot of the 'rider down' threads too). Often seems like this forum is designed to put people off riding a bike.
This forum is sufficiently off-putting to 'noobs' for that to not matter. Anyone new to cycling coming to this forum will think we're all a bunch of cunts before being put off riding.
Moaning is fun.
Sorry Skydancer but just looks like another thread about the negatives of cycling - calling out bad ones, commuting horror stories, crap driving, terrible infrastructure, etc. (and I would include a lot of the 'rider down' threads too). Often seems like this forum is designed to put people off riding a bike.