• Or the opposite, ooh, nice wheels I'll throw those on today - and then use them all winter because they are so nice to ride on compared to cheap shimanos...

  • Ive had none disc carbon wheels that lasted 5 years even with winter so i i think you are setting the bar way to low.

  • The whole 'measure by time' is a red herring anyway - it's measure by load - kms ridden by your average mamil is a fair proxy I'd say.

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