• What I’m trying to say is that I don’t see a problem with motorists being delayed even a couple of changes of lights because they’re surrounded by cyclists. In reality I can’t see this happening on more than one occasion as the motorist will just bully their way through the cyclists once they’ve been delayed for one change of the lights. It’s only an issue in a couple of cycling hot spots like London where cyclist are becoming a collective force of numbers on the roads.

    Regardless, you shouldn't be repeatedly firing your horn at people because you think their stopping you moving off from a set of lights.

  • Still don't follow. It's okay that traffic control indefinitely delay one type of road user because that road user will eventually "bully their way through"?

  • I understand the theory of what your suggesting, however I don't accept that in reality a motorist would be delayed any longer than one cycle of the lights given the circumstances you've described .

    I can only assume your being deliberately obtuse, because other people appear to follow.

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