• Peugeot built a legendary diesel engine and stuck to pretty much the same design for decades, so much so, I believe Nissan created something extremely similar but significantly more efficient.

    Citroen haven't built a decent car for years and had a period in the 90's where the finishing on the car was substandard even when compared to British cars produced in the midlands in the 60's, 70's and 80's.

    Renault - after the Sport Spider there's been nothing of any real note.

    I accept that their concept cars have been interesting over the years, but their cars are abominations.

  • I have to admit the newest french car I owned was a 2 litre 306 in Diablo red - it was great. No issues. The 505 I had was brilliant. As was the other 306. And the 205.

    Fair points though, all the french things post 2001 are poo. Except some Renault Sport offerings.

    I think it's a massive shame that modern citroens are so dull. Their current efforts are to superficial to be really innovative or interesting.

  • The XUD engine, used in generators alot. But lets not forget that its a citroen engine not a pug one.. 1.7 turbos do headgaskets so break the cam, or cam cap. The 2.0 turbo stuck in the rover is a peach of an engine tho.

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