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• #2
Looks great. I wondered how they'd be able to fit in proper segregated cycle routes without having to widen the bridge over the flood relief channel, but then looking on streetview you can see the carriageway is actually unnecessarily wide here. Excellent.
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• #3
I'm one of the local cycling campaigners most involved in this. Please please please stick in loads of comments on the consultation - good, bad, whatever you feel. But council really needs to know cyclists want great quality infrastructure!
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• #4
I suppose the proof of the design will be in the implementation, (like with the embankment plan). Will they be wide enough to cope with a big volume of cycle traffic? Are there still 3 lanes for car drivers? If driving is just as easy as cycling there, will people use them.
Too early to reach any conclusions I think
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• #5
Well maybe, but the plans as they stand look very acceptable so far, separate light phases through the Whipps Cross junction and complete segregation from traffic is ideal...
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• #6
This looks really amazing and I really look forward to the works being finished. Already seen some nice small improvements in E17 due to Mini Holland.
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• #7
Skydancer - the plans AFAIK include lane widths etc. for the sections so far. The general principle is certainly wide, high-quality tracks on either side, along entire length of Lea Bridge Road, to the borough boundary with Hackney (hmmm).
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• #8
Well if that is the case, and riders are prioritised over drivers at junctions, then great!
We'll see...
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• #9
The details show a 'copenhagen style blended crossing'. Which appears to show the cycle track continuing across the side roads with give way triangles and an upstand in the road height...
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• #10
At uncontrolled crossings, the general idea is to wherever possible reduce turning movements into/out of the side road - that ties in with the "villagisation" road closure cells coming in. And yes, Copenhagen crossings then give priority to peds/cycles.
At controlled crossings, the general idea is to separate cycles from motor vehicles in time and/or space.
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• #11
the general idea is to separate cycles from motor vehicles in time and/or space
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• #12
What's the latest here - the extension to the bridge on Lea Bridge Road is now in place isn't it?
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• #13
On the north side there's a new bridge over the old aquaduct in situ, but it's not in use yet because they're still building the path. I'm struggling to see how the new path will be of any use until they remodel the road, because currently it will just dump you back onto LBR before the Flood Relief Channel.
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• #14
details on each section here http://www.enjoywalthamforest.co.uk/work-in-you-area/lea-bridge-road/
In the grey box to the right, each section has a full plan on the proposals.
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• #15
Looks like it's not too far from completion but are they going to install extra lighting? Or do we use it in darkness??
Also interested to see how they deal with the pinch point as the road narrows towards the Argall Way/Orient Way junction..........
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• #16
Section B in the above, the track continues to the outside of the pavement East and Westbound all the way up the big roundabout at the top...
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• #17
Yeah I saw that the bridge is to be widened........would've thought this would have been done before they did all the current work to get the new station open.
These plans are guaranteed to piss off drivers!
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• #18
They can't expand the railway bridge enough for a proper two way cycle track. It will remain a pinch point, and they're making it shared with pedestrians on the south side.
From what I can gather they're expecting all westbound cyclists to cross the road at a signalised crossing after the flood relief channel in order to get onto the wider two way track on the north side. Somehow I doubt many morning commuters will take up the offer!
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• #19
That's wildly different to the plans, where was this mentioned?
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• #20
I interpreted it from the map here: http://www.enjoywalthamforest.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/019021-Lea-Bridge-Road-Consultation-survey-WEB.pdf
The railway bridge only has an cycle lane on the north side, and that's one way eastbound. On the south side it's shared use with peds.
However looking at the plan for section A it seems they're going to keep a westbound cycle lane on the south side and not expect all cyclists to cross to the north side - which is great.
I'd be delighted if my scepticism were proven wrong on all counts!
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• #21
I get the feeling they have gone all in for route continuity on this one, different contractors/designers compared to the tfl schemes and other boroughs.
The south side of the bridge looks like shared use, and I guess you will get some mixing with peds in there, though there are no ped destinations on that stretch so should be low numbers, and people will soon learn to stay north and head to the junction to move south.
Quite frankly this is what I reckon good cycle design to look like, it would be perverse to prefer to be on the road rather than use something of this quality.*
http://www.enjoywalthamforest.co.uk/leabridge-road-section-h/
*Provided this quality is replicated along the whole route! But section A and H look amazing...