• Higher stack than CAAD10 .. and no women's CAAD12. Late to the party after AWOL on touring bikes. Looks like they just focused on CAAD12 and Slate. Why aren't they getting the message on BB30?

    Most meh of big 3 .. Specialized, Trek and Dale.

  • Most meh of big 3 .. Specialized, Trek and Dale.

    Isn't Giant still the biggest bike manufacturer* :-/

    *not keeping up to date anymore

  • yeah .. even their Propel AL more exciting.

    meh in terms of nothing new; what they have is great .. why reinvent the wheel etc. I also kind of like their 'fuck you' to aero bikes but market forces etc. Slate is genuinely innovative but late to the party (again).

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