RLJ (Red Light Jumping). (The definitive bikeradar thread)

"Not all drivers"

^ driving intensifies

Much easier just to put the shouty torch-wavers on ignore, so you can be spared their bilious outpourings of abuse. Makes the world seem like a much nicer place generally really.

Were there traffic lights on the bridge?

Simples:
If its red, its going to go to green.
If its green its going to go to red.
Accelerate at red lights, brake at green.

Now where is my tin foil hat?

What about all the colours in between green and red?

1. amber
   
2. orange
   
3. yellow
   
4. and many more
   

In reality

Accelerate at green lights, ride through red lights

It's becoming legal in Paris

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-33773868

allez les blues!
vive la france!

Will Grand Bretagne catch up with the rest of the world? Cars can do it in Oz and the US.

Even educated fleas do it.
Let's do it. Let's stand in the road.

Oh that's already a big thing over here. Mainstream.

From a friend (who is a cycle journo):

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Everything related to the roads was better in France (other than everyone being on the wrong side of the road, but I can forgive them for that, they drink a lot..)

isn't it actually lovely! Like for instance the road width of space that hgv's give you?
On my first tour to France i was abused verbally by tossers going up the surrey hills (on the way to Portsmouth), the next day after a night crossing to Calais, i was encouraged up a hill by another bunch of (french) oiks, who hurled encouragement over a particularly steep pass.

culture innit.

Careful now--right on red (or left on red in the UK) is a stalking horse for permitting the same manoeuvre for car drivers. When it was introduced in the US, it basically doubled pedestrian casualties (including deaths) overnight. It's not a good thing.

Had my first french cycling foray last year and couldn't believe how nice and understanding car drivers are. HGV driver sat patiently behind us on a narrow road then gave a little wave as we stopped to let him past. Another car lets us draft it both going up and down a steepish hill. That was until we hit Paris....

Agreed, France nails it.

@santino and I on our trip had only one or two close* passes for the hundreds of km between Dieppe and Paris. That's not counting Paris-Paris. I was in awe, a little dumbstruck just how much space the HGV's and cars were giving. Same thing, waiting til safe, then loads of room. We saw a guy getting towed up a tough hill, holding onto the passenger door, too. Lucky bastard.

*close in France = wide in UK

Whilst we're derailing the RLJ thread I'll add my anecdotes about passes from different nationalities.

London-Edinburgh-London in 2009 had lots of foreign riders. Many of the European riders came with support vehicles (family in estate cars or camper vans) and whilst most of the ride had designated routes for these support vehicles that kept them away from the ride route the Northern sections (especially Scotland) had little choice but to put them on the same roads as the riders.

My experience of vehicles overtaking (based on the country designation of the number plates) from good to bad was:-

• French - by far the best, as people have said patient and then a big wide overtake
  
• Spanish - mostly like the French
  
• German - good, but not as wide
  
• UK - a bit better than normal but still some close passes
  
• Italian - about what I'd expect from the UK
  
• ...
  
• ...and bottom by a very long way...
  
• ...
  
• Netherlands - almost every single pass was dangerously close
  
  

I guess with so much segregation the Dutch are simply not used to passing cyclists on the road and don't know how to do it reliably and safely. Segregation eh?

Proof that RLJs are the province of lawbreakers.

edit - completely misunderstood your post, ignore.

Yeah I thought that was a bit harsh, no need to bring his Mum into it either.

Wide pass, etc.

this is what we need,

A proposed ordinance would make the city the largest to allow bicyclists to roll past stop signs if the path is clear.

San Francisco May Let Bicyclists Yield at Stop Signs

You realise stop signs aren't traffic lights, right?