RLJ (Red Light Jumping). (The definitive bikeradar thread)

Why slow down @edscoble ?

It took him 4 months to reply to that, he's already going pretty slow.

Besides, there is enough time at any set of lights to stop a bike before they go red due to the wonders of the amber light telling you it's changing. Stop if safe to do so on amber and you will be stationary by the time it goes red.

From the comments on my youtube by a troll I seem to have collected. Amazing idea of calling light jumping "pre moving".

left and right lights changed to red he was pre moving before his changed to green

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joocwJk1mGQ

Meh, I guess he/she tried to anticipate the signal change (based on experience driving the same route all the time?) and just got it wrong by a couple of seconds.

Still an offence though (according to this page, I haven't dug into the legislation to confirm):-

http://www.motorlawyers.co.uk/offences/traffic_lights.php

"
Q: I was in a queue of stop/start traffic. The lights changed as I was on the line. Have I committed an offence?

If you stop immediately, you have not committed an offence regardless of the fact that part of the vehicle is past the stop line. An offence is committed if you attempt to proceed further when the light is red. The rules are, the offence is committed if you do not come to an immediate halt.
"

Meh, I guess he/she tried to anticipate the signal change (based on experience driving the same route all the time?) and just got it wrong by a couple of seconds.

Indeed, nearly all "professional" drivers (I use this term very loosey) tend to do that, I got freaked out by one accelerating moment after the red light disappear.

The young man just called me Sir. Might do this more often.

Because Cyclists Stay Back

1. No-one around to see
   
2. Too Drunk
   
3. A bit Tired
   
4. Slightly Late
   
5. Fixie Skidda Alleycat points
   
6. For the Lulz
   
7. Hill Start
   
8. Being a badass
   
9. Out of embarrassment
   
10. You're just about to get a Strava KOM
    
11. Trying to copy the person trackstanding and failing badly
    
12. Colourblind
    
13. Need a poo
    
14. Cannot trackstand
    
15. Looks like a bad crowd in the ASL
    
16. Tax Reasons
    
17. Ped pushed crossing button when there wasn't a cyclist/vehicle
    within sight
    
18. You are turning left (because you can do this in the US of freakin'
    A so it must be OK)
    
19. You have a flamethrower strapped to your bike which is legal in the
    US and you can torch anything that gets in your way
    
20. Everyone else is doing it
    
21. You really need that poo
    
22. You did a poo
    
23. The light isn't particularly tall, about waist height, and you
    fancy the athletic challenge.
    
24. Touching cloth.
    
25. Because existential crisis
    
26. need to get a ticket
    
27. You're feeling a bit frisky and the light is red hawt.
    
28. Dodgy knee
    
29. Riding braeklzz, can't stop don't want to
    
30. Because you're just more important than those light-stoppers.
    
31. Trying to even things up since London's infrastructure mainly
    serves cars.
    
32. anarchist
    
33. You need to get to your destination so that you can FIX THE FICKING
    LIST.
    
34. Too busy fixing lists to look for red lights
    
35. It's 2am, I triple checked, there's fuck all coming and I don't
    have a number plate
    
36. Your mum.
    
37. Solipsism
    
38. You stopped in front of everyone waiting in the ASL and suddenly
    feel really self conscious.
    
39. Simon says.
    
40. Daryll from down the road and a bunch of other kids did it first.
    
41. It's sex night
    
42. Has bar bag and map holder setup
    
43. Everything is inherently worthless
    
44. You finally figured out how to fix the list.
    
45. Cunt shift.
    
46. Everyone should have slowed to 10mph when going through the opposing green lights.
    
47. You have Butt Hurt
    
48. Cos waiting at lights is bad for your health
    
49. It's Sunday and I'm fucked if I'm spending any more time getting to work and back than I have to and the only reason I ever waited at red was to feel morally superior to everyone else anyway and fuck everyone else.
    
50. Because riot prediction
    
51. To avoid being bottled. http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/cyclist-attacked-with-broken-bottle-after-stopping-at-traffic-lights-near-regents-park-10219813.html
    

In Manchester. Anyone know him?

https://youtu.be/o2Q5ldUE-u8

That video is well old, we proved it was a Photoshop as there actually aren't any buses in Manchester.

52 . Because there are no buses in Manchester

I've all but given up my RLJ days, still do it once in a blue moon when I consider it a soft light (and I'd have to show you the specific junctions to define that) but I've actually grown to like stopping because it means you can't be lumped in with the horrific, reactionary diatribe you get from 'motorists' about cyclists, which is essential the same logic that blames women for being raped because they got drunk and wore a short skirt (see never read the comments).

That jumps the shark when you see 'motorists' leaping to the defence of a driver caught eat a bowl of cereal while out driving, by a cyclist. Instead of rounding on the driver you see them complaining about cyclists' bad behaviour, and that is the reason why cyclists get knocked down, hurt and killed, and using it to excuse what she is doing behind the wheel. That is a worrying, pervasive rhetoric and one I have had yelled at me a few times if I've made a mistake or just taken primary and they can't work out why I've 'cut them off'.

Their mentality is cyclists break the law/HWC, so it's their fault they get hit, they (motorists) get the blame and pay for it with increased insurance costs, and so that is also the cyclists fault.

Was about to delete but then I think I have realised my point: every time you jump a red light you perpetuate that victim-blaming rhetoric, and every time you stop you don't, so you do everyone rides a bike a favour. Every time you run one you do the opposite. What's the opposite to a favour, cockpunch? By running a red light you are giving a collective cockpunch/fannyslap to every biker.

As snotts alludes, it was covered when it happened in prob epic fail and maybe memes? His brake cable snapped...

By the way what about the taxi that also jumps the light?

His brake cable snapped...

29.

Ooooo, I do hope you've got your tin hat on. You're not allowed to say that on here. The 'no such thing as collective responsibility' and 'oooo, victiming blaming bastard' mob will be surrounding you with virtual torches soon.

You're right, of course, but apparently you're still not allowed to say it.

yer right. there is no collective responsibility. there really isn't.

/shrugs

With collective power comes collective responsibility.

I have no idea what that means. Anyway it's been a long transition from blasting through town doing what ever I wanted on a bike to how I ride now, and for me there are plenty of shades of grey in the road, so wanted to articulate it. Tin foil hat? I'll prolly just not read the thread.

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Nice marmot

That's a Nexus 6 really.

I'm the same with you on that. I used to enjoy the thrill of a red light jump but now I enjoy the sanctity of waiting at a red light and the feeling you get knowing that no one is on your case.
That is unless, there is no one around for a some distance. ;)

That's unfortunate

By running a red light you are giving a collective cockpunch/fannyslap to every biker.

I deal with a lot of very cunty cyclists at work. Collective cockpunch/fanyslap is an incentive to RLJ.

I enjoy ... waiting at a red light ... unless, there is no one around for a some distance. ;)

If a tree falls in the forest and there's noone around to hear it...