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  • @tallsam yes they did, it's just me willing to try to make the most out of the £850 that my Cinelli cost me. On a track frame 60mm doesn't look bad and handling seems fine too but I have no memory of other measures tried in past. And yes I could get rid of the bull horn but I'll then lose the ability to put my wrists straight

  • RE: Straight wrists. I'm the same somewhat (although with drops rather than bullhorns). Can't really get on with flat bars or risers for long periods of riding. Ergon grips help but I'd not like to do more than an hour or two like that.

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