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Felt more cushioned (flex in middle despite no pads) than the ultra hard carbon.
^ Here's your answer.
Since going full-retard and putting SMPs on everything I only ever get uncomfortable with rubbish bib-shorts with overly stretchy lycra. Shimano shorts are shit! It's not so much the pad that's an issue as whether or not it stays put.
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What's that got to do with anything. Are we just saying random things now or do you think stiffness and padding are at all related