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  • @nohwolf it's fine if it is not as large as an aluminium one but I would like to keep the visual effect of having a bigger down tube. The sad part is that I'm googling a lot lately but I can't find a single photo of a steel frame with this properties, I can find photos of the raw pipes but nothing assembled :)

    I think a good bet at this point is to contact some frame builder and ask directly what can be feasibly achieved. I'm in love with Argos work but the prices are just... erm... "rightfully" insane.
    I wish I can support the local industry but when the prices are four times higher than what the good Orlowsky can do it's hard to do so.

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