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I saw that. But I didn't care. It's what I wanted him to say, and so now he has said it.

^^ haha

you've left the gas in your castle on.

hehe.

no gas here - i burn coal, to keep the servants from freezing to death

Presumably the BBC has the speech or talking points (which were probably provided by CCHQ).

burn servants. problem solved.

i wanted to put that on facebook so the whole world would know but i didn't want to be done for defaming nice mr cameron

fun fact of the day
my mum was the midwife for the birth of david camerons brother allan

midwifery has a lot to answer for!

Who came THIRD?

Interesting read. Greens have never done better in London

and mr cameron snr was mum and dads stockbroker

that's a lot of purple :/

We could agree that whatever the strike limits are also the democratic limits in elections?

If a party can be elected on 36% of popular vote and a turnout of only 70%, then why can a union apply a similar democratic process to the same conclusion?

If the government demand 100% participation, and 60% majority, perhaps this should be applied to themselves too?

If 36% is a mandate to act... then 36% (when it is a majority of those voting) should be enough to strike.

I wonder whether we are actually heading for a Europe exit?

I'd like to think we weren't that stupid. But I just don't know. The level of racism, that fire now stoked, is such that I can imagine people voting yes to leave Europe so that they can stem the flow of immigrants (legal or not) from Europe.

Heard a couple of people on the tube talking about this just this morning, and both believed it would be better to exit - I didn't really believe people like that existed.

Union actions are decided by unions as the democratic arm of the workers who make them up. The government stepping in such a way would, I imagine, result in a massive general strike.

Those complaining about voting - I've been on strike a couple of times in the past. I didn't vote in either situation. The union represents my interests and I trust them.

^^never underestimate the propensity for secretly awful people in large numbers to behave awfully when they think no-one is looking.

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Every country has his owns of that species, if that is any consolation. And is exactly from that that we should start to build solid and guarded borders. Working on extinguish the sp. would be better, though.

Yeah totally agree - the system is bonkers and full of double standards. Labour got 35.2% in 2005, Torys got 36.9 the other day. Whoever you support it doesn't feel right. Linking up strike limits and democratic limits doesn't seem like a bad idea.

You get the tube! Dude, the end is nigh

The assumption that all tory voters are privileged is laughable. The working class voted tory because they see LABOUR as run by a privileged, out of touch intellectual, i.e Ed milliband. We lost, I mean Labour lost (I am joining the party so I can vote for the new leader) because the working classes, especially in the north and far south west, think everyone in London and the south east is a cunt. So the feeling's mutual, but it doesn't help anyone.

The tory government is shit, and will be shit, and Labour needs to figure out how to oust it next time. The only way to do that is to win votes back from the tories. We want more people on our side, not fewer. How will we achieve that by calling half the population cunts?

I might vote for Andy Burnham. I think Chukka Umunna will be seen as too slick and southern. I don't know the 2010 lot so well.

The parties are supposed to be distinct. They're supposed to stand for something, not try to steal votes by gazumping each other.

It felt like the Tories spent the whole election trying to be more like Labour, and Labour more like the Tories. It was pathetic.

What is done is done and what will be next will be in five years.

Now, not the politicians who have the task and power to reorganise, but us, who have to deal with another five years of raping, need to fight against the enemy and their supporters*. That is all really.

*Passive, active, lost intellectuals, bi-sex, tri-sex, wankers, intellectuals upside down, working class with hopes of glory, very clever ones, individuals who sells their asses for vocation, worms, traitors full of fear, naturally born to serve, the list is long… all of them.

bi-sex, tri-sex

If you don't mind me asking, what the fuck is this supposed to mean? I'm hoping your not implying that people aren't immediately Tory supporters because of their gender identity or sexuality?

In fact I'm also wondering about;

working class with hopes of glory

Am I to take it that the working class shouldn't have any ambition to live a life outside of the constraints of a stereotype?

No, I didn't mean that, I wouldn't now leave the sex pleasures only to the tories.

No, of course not, they can have the ambition.

marcom knows more than one language

I voted in the last labour leadership. David m, Andy B, others and Ed M last. Ed was last in an attempt to counter the union vote that dominated that leaderships election. Andy B is a really good bloke as far as I can tell but I fear will be slightly too left to be electable. Chuka looks to be a little of the unknown (even tho he is everywhere). He may come accross as the metropolitan elite but he may have Tony Blair's flair for the centre and I think that is the key to getting a labour government