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  • Sachs New Succes isn't low end, no?

    Anything that prehistoric will seem low end compared with modern kit. 1970s Campag Super Record was at the top of the market, but on a bike for riding I'd take 2015 Shimano Claris over 1975 Super Record.

  • That doesn't make them "low end". Outdated, OK, but not "low end". A 90's Exage 300 is low end, a DA from the same period isn't.

    @Vince: there are New Succes 8 speed brifters (somewhere out there...). Sach New Succes was of level comparable to Campa C-Record.

  • That doesn't make them "low end".

    I didn't say they were low end, just that they would seem low end to anybody used to modern equipment. By any reasonable measure, current Claris is a vast improvement over first generation DuraAce.

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