Bike fit / correct riding position

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starfish&coffee in reply to @BareNecessities
Cheers.. just skimming trough the article I get the impression my whole question is wrong.
Instead of listening to my legs I should pay attention to my torso/balance/breathing when deciding seat seatback?
Now I'm thinking that my recent need to move my saddle back might have been instigated by me gradually developing a longer/more stretched out upper body on my road bike. As opposed to any issues with my quads. Cool, will be more mindful of my upperbody on next ride.

A list of personal details you didn't ask for, that I am nevertheless including for no particular reason:
- I've got long legs, just a smidgeon below the upper red line on this chart.
- My hamstrings are pretty OK for a bloke nearing 40.
- My heel is usually horisontal at 9 o'clock. I've got my seat in the lower section of the recommended height-range in order to achieve this. Fuck pedalling tip-toe like a ballerina.
- I ride on the hoods 97% of the time. Admit it, so do you lot. Tops and hoods for a bit of occasional variation maybe, I never ride in the drops.
EDIT.

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Thuekr in reply to @starfish&coffee

What bugs me is the short effective torso rider will be less short effective (longer) if he chooses a stem 20mm longer than on the picture - visa versa on the long effective torso rider. Does the stem then indirect become a set-back-whisperer?

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miro_o in reply to @Thuekr

I think it's best just get the saddle 'right' (and cleats). Sort your arms / stem out later.
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starfish&coffee in reply to @Thuekr

I'm guessing the point was to illustrate a person who due to injury or back problems is unable to ride with a longer stem?

But talking of the pictures, it the Australian guy meant to be an ideal set up? It seems to me that he is in violation of the rule (of thumb) that you should not be able to see your hubs over the handlebars?

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