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Oh rad, thanks! Was too lazy to look too far :)
@roadwarrior Word. I've read that both can be made to work (from different sources), though I admit I've seen 700>650b more often. And so I shrug! I just went back to the Salsa Vaya to look at that again, geo on the 54cm looked better aside from BB drop.
I guess there's the option of a Croix De Fer & Fork swap, basically what Spotter did?
@busseynova You're not the first person to point this out. I think I'd thought that burlier frame = longer lifespan, so wasn't too fussed about it perhaps being ott for the type of touring I'm intending on.
Also I like the way it looks which is obviously the most important part.
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@853Superfly
Quick google fu
Frame 56cm 2.55kg
Fork 1.25kg (uncut, Surlys tend to have very long steerer tubes)
The stock Surly cast stainless steel seatpost clamps are a quick way to shed a mars bar worth of weight with a trick milled out Alu clamp :)
(Karate Monkey owner, will get round to touring/bikepacking on it one day)