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  • I have a carbon bike for nice days and a super tight track for commuting so neither is really suitable.

    Plus although I am taking minimal
    Stuff for a week on the bike that's still a fair amount..

    Forgot to mention it must be steel.
    Liking the idea of a Velo Orange 650b frame

    http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/frames/polyvalent-mkiii.html

    Although I would like an older lugged frame

  • I'm going away for 3 weeks with just a saddlebag.

    Instead of buying a steel touring bike, buy a decent down sleeping bag and a small light tent. That way both pack up into a small space and thus you can take less.
    Use a backpack that stuff into a tiny sack for supermarket dashes.

    Honestly. Take the nice bike, with a saddle bag and maybe attached tent to front handlebars. Will be more fun. Plus stops you from taking the kitchen sink!
    You bought a nice bike for a reason!

    Unless you want a steel frame for an excuse for a new bike.

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