• Somewhat torn between not wanting to feed the troll and saying, okay if there is the slightest possibility you are not a troll, how can you be reasoned with...

    It can actually be meant as a compliment!

    What is a compliment? What's its purpose?
    Let's say you were wanting to compliment someone - it's about making them feel good about a thing, right? Making them pleased? So if you genuinely wanted to compliment someone on their arse, your aim would be to make them feel pleased that they have a nice arse. So if you knew that you have a very high chance of upsetting someone, bringing their mood right down, by yelling "Nice arse!", surely if you actually wanted to compliment them this would be meaningful to you. It would make you think "Oh, okay. That's not a cool way to compliment someone.", rather than think "Well what do their feelings matter? It's much more important what I meant!"

    There are a lot of people saying that those "meant as a compliments" verbals, are not appreciated or received as such. If that's considered irrelevant by the complimentor, then that complimentor isn't trying to be nice at all, they're trying to be mean.

    Get it?

  • Somewhat torn between not wanting to feed the troll and saying, okay if there is the slightest possibility you are not a troll, how can you be reasoned with...

    The way I see it, is that there are three options.

    1. He's not read any of the supporting links that we've posted (which have already covered this material), because his penis has said "yo man, we don't need to bother with reading any of that shit because there is literally no way we can learn anything from it - it's all about women and there's nothing we don't know about women coz we are such a stud innit", in which case he needs to stop listening to advice from his penis because it is stupid;
    2. He has read the supporting material but doesn't understand it, in which case I'm not sure what to say as the material is mostly in webcomic form and has been designed to be easy to understand, I guess maybe he should read it again until he does;
    3. He has read the supporting material but figures he will repeat the same tired old "arguments" against letting women decide for themselves how they feel about their own lived experiences because either he's sure that he will be the bro who finally persuades wimmin to get it, or just because the sun is out and he's feeling a bit trolly. In which case he needs to be aware that I'll be fucked if I'm going to let this thread become yet another place in which some guy can come along and explain to women how they are womaning all wrong and if only they'd woman in the way he thinks they should everything would be so much better.
  • I did read the supporting material but it was largely based on people shouting abuse at women, which I wasn't talking about.

    Basically men and women on bikes occasionaly get street harassment from twats and ofcourse are taken differently by each person, male or female.

    Just because a man says something to a woman you infer that it is always worse than vice versa just by playing the sexism card. I know
    women who wouldn't get more bothered by some bloke shouting about there arse than I would. Some people can shrug it off, and some people have to make videos about how it has made them feel inferior and how they demand to be treated with more respect.

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