• it's ambiguous , the above crystal example has round tubes, and cut out's in the ht lug,here's another

    there is a lot of uncertainty in the two models for sure, i really would try the weight option!

  • there is a lot of uncertainty in the two models for sure, i really would try the weight option!

    So, I checked the frameweight: the “unknown” yellow frame weighs 1875 g (size 57). Compared to my 1998 Master Extra Light (size 58; completely “chem-stripped” and tipping the scales at 1800 g) you can say these two are similar in weight. That is: considering paint weighs between 50 and 100 g (information I got from a professional bike-sprayer). I don’t know how all these numbers compare to how much a Tecnos, Elegant or Crystal weighs, but compared to a 2015 Master (1850 g), this unknown one has practically the same weight.

    I’m still not convinced it’s an Elegant but on the other hand: I can’t believe contemporary DT15V steel would be as heavy as/heavier than nineties “low end” steel. Or do I see that wrong?

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