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  • Loads more coming on imdabestmayne.tumblr.com

    ..actually I just looked at a few of the new climbing shots on your tumblr - right after reading / researching about the Plaubel Makina 67 - still dreaming, though there's no way I'll have the funds to buy this thing (and a proper MF scanner) soon.

    This actually led me to a question:
    are you masochistic, or just plain nuts to schlepp an RB around all the time ?!?

    Ps: great photos, as always ;)

  • Absolutely love the second one :)

  • So my first 2 films have been developed, printed and scanned by Snaps Photo Service in Bournemouth (great service) and some of them are goodish.... although I'll let you judge that for yourselves. Shot with my friends Minolta Dynax 7000i.

    Waiting by Michael M Rennie, on Flickr

    Heelund Coo by Michael M Rennie, on Flickr

    Swinging by Michael M Rennie, on Flickr

    Also any recommendations for some colour film and stockists?

  • Nice photos, especially the last one!

    As for colour film you have basically three options:

    1. Cheap: Agfa Vista from Poundland - £1
    2. Medium: Kodak Colourplus/Gold from anywhere, but I'd recommend Macodirect.de - £2.20ish
    3. Expensive: Kodak Portra 400 - now ridiculously expensive but still easily the best. Upwards of £5.
  • Thanks @Vesalius and @platypus, I was glad the panning shot on the swing came out :)

    Will try some of that colour stock and post my results.

    My wife thinks I'm mental, playing with £13 film camera's and getting all excited when I have a newish OM-D E-M1 to play with....

  • As for colour film you have basically three options

    I can also recommend Vista, it's good for a cheap film. Not good for skin tones though.

    Luckily, there are still more than three options still!
    Portra 160 (a little bit cheaper), then Ektar 100 (very vivid), Fuji Pro 400H (cooler palette), CineStill 50D / 800T...
    I guess you'll have to order most of these online if you don't have a proper analogue shop nearby, but that's how it is.
    Speaking of which, I've heard really good things about Kodak ProImage - a "consumer" film, but a very good one - this is apparently not being sold in the EU, I have seen reasonable offerings (including shipping) from Thailand on eBay.

  • are you masochistic, or just plain nuts to schlepp an RB around all
    the time ?!?

    Haha, well I guess you just get used to it really. It's always body, 3 lenses and 2 backs too.

    If you've already got a big bag of climbing stuff, what difference does it make?

  • Cheers @tina.kino, I'm going to try a few rolls and see what I like. Will have a look for that Thai stuff too.

  • what difference does it make?

    about 3,5kg ?

  • Haha, well, yes.

  • Well you do get used to it, it's true (my bag I go outside with daily is also 2,5-3,5 kg, depending on lenses etc).

    Actually (if I recall correctly) I did suggest a Mamiya 7 would be better that an RB a while back, and you said you would if it weren't for the high cost / you just happen to have the RB and lenses already?

    Anyways, the thought of you climbing (and shooting) with that thing in the mountains makes me smile
    : ]

  • I'd love a Mamiya 7 for sure, but yeah - the cost is very prohibitive.
    I was given the RB67 as a gift (picked up for £200-ish IIRC), which was the ideal situation. I'd wanted a MF something for so long but could never decide on what to actually get, so when someone else made the decision for me it was ideal (well, considering the size of the RB maybe not totally ideal).

    As for climbing with it, it gets carried to the location but seldom actually continues to be strapped to my back when climbing - that's probably a step too far for me!

  • A bit of a wait but I'm back in England in 2 months and one of my miniluxs will be up for sale still/again. £190 now.
    Sorry for the ad/spam.

  • A question to tina.kino: I've read elsewhere some concerns regarding the long term colour stability of Cinestill negatives; and as a reference was cited a similar venture in the past (conversion of movie film and and using different processing). Considering your knowledge and experience I decided to ask you what do you think about that?

  • Short answer: I don't really know - and I don't care.

    Meaning I hardly ever ever enlarge anything from color negatives the traditional way in this day and age - I get stuff developed at a proper lab, and then I scan the negs and go from there.
    It's sad - but I don't have access to a colour lab, and to be honest I'm not great at enlarging colour (and having it done properly by somebody else has gotten unbelievably expensive where I live).

    Apart from this I can only cite the Cinestill FAQ -
    Q: What is the shelf-life & archivability of CineStill Film processed in C-41 chemistry?
    A: (...) C-41 process uses some of the most archival chemicals available for photo processing today. There have been no scientific tests for the dye stability of ECN film cross-processed in C-41 but from our tests on film processed four years ago there is no color degradation or fogging of the magenta dye layer.

    I'm not sure what "similar venture in the past" you have heard of; might be good to know that (also quoted from CineStill's FAQ -)
    It is important to note that CineSill is NOT "repackaged" motion picture film. Rather, we utilize the same advanced emulsion technology found in Motion Picture film to create a still photography film which is made for C-41 processing. (...)
    "Repackaged" motion picture film CAN NOT be processed in standard C-41 film processors due to the Remjet backing present on motion picture films, which would contaminate the chemistry and damage both the machine and film inside.

    Companies which "repackaged" old unused motion picture stocks forced the photographer to send the film back to them for makeshift motion lab processing

    http://cinestillfilm.com/pages/frequently-asked-questions

  • Thank you for the swift reply.

    Well, I am not agonizing that the posterity would be impoverished if some of my negatives degrade (I am sure they will find ways to fix them if deemed of any value), I just want from a quality film to last a few decades without obvious degradation.

    As for the similar venture in the past I meant the Seattle Film works conversion of cinema film, commercially available in the end of 1980s/ beginning of the 1990s. Some information about that (and a lot more technical details) in the APUG thread

    http://www.apug.org/forums/forum172/122608-new-fast-800-tungsten-balanced-film-called-cinestill-2.html

  • I just want from a quality film to last a few decades without obvious degradation.

    Fair enough, though I guess you'll be smart to archive things digitally these days.
    I mean - even if your negs still look great in some decades - there most likely will hardly be any chemicals / paper left to enlarge them the traditional way, and it even if there is it will cost you a fortune.

  • True. Perhaps I shouldn't be that lazy to scan an image only when I need it, but scan everything I intend to keep from a roll.

  • more fucking flowers (I failed to get this roll developed for ages)

  • Those RB67 photos are great.

    Stupid forum doesn't go to the last page so it seems like a random reply.

  • Cheers!

    And I feel your forum based frustrations too.

  • Always scan everything and back up to Dropbox.
    I gave about 8 rolls of cine 50d to develop, shot from Rio to Bolivia, hopefully a couple won't be crap.

  • Really curious to see some of the Cine shots when you develop it.

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