• Check shoulder, signal, maneuver (if it's safe to do so).

    If all you're doing is signalling (in a large and obvious manner) and maneuvering then you're abdicating responsibility for your actions and placing it in the hands of other road users, just the same as looking at your phone whilst stepping out to cross a road.

  • I agree - that said any driver should be overtaking wide and at a decent, safe speed (meaning that the will not hit someone turning right unless they do it suddenly) or driving a safe distance back so that they do not hit an idiot who onl signals and does not check.

    As an individual I try to cycle as well as I can and both signal and look, because not looking is dangerous. As a member of the cycling community I believe that signalling and moving slowly to the right without looking would be perfectly safe if ever driver drove as they should.

  • Sometimes the real world and the highway code differ. Not shoulder checking is suicidal in london traffic. Where is the common sense? As a member of the pedestrian community I try to look and comply, but believe that standing at zebra crossing staring at phone for couple of seconds it would be blah blah blah its friday

  • As a member of the cycling community I believe that signalling and moving slowly to the right without looking would be perfectly safe if ever driver drove as they should.

    As a member of the cycling community I believe I can fly. I believe I can touch the sky.

  • The signal is an expression of intent to change vector, but does not grant the right to do so. For example when changing lane to just signal and then swerve into the lane would be ignorant/stupid/dangerous. There could be a driver who is driving with due care and attention and at an appropriate speed, just changing into the lane they are in would be to cause an accident. If this happened it would be unlikely that the driver would be found to be at fault. In exactly the same manner as someone driving along and just signalling and swerving into a different lane would be at fault, so would your hypothetical cyclist.

    I would suggest it is the other way right round. Adequate checking and eye contact with drivers behind me often gets drivers to allow me to change into their lane, without me needing to signal.

  • As a member of the cycling community I believe that signalling and moving slowly to the right without looking would be perfectly safe if ever driver drove as they should.

    You may have signalled to the person behind you who slows down, but there may be a cyclists, motorcyclist or other road user behind them who has not seen you or your signal and who does not realise why the vehicle in front of the is slowing. Not knowing of your intention they may attempt an overtake.

    Looking > signalling

    Though ideally

    1. Look
    2. Signal if required
    3. Conduct lifesaver check before making the turn
  • 653-7410 in reply to @cornelius_blackfoot

    As an individual I try to cycle as well as I can and both signal and look, because not looking is dangerous. As a member of the cycling community I believe that signalling and moving slowly to the right without looking would be perfectly safe if ever driver drove as they should.

    Eh?

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