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Off on a tangent time, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efsXsyXtS78
Lager of Lamot, after watching that i get the urge to dig out Iron Maidens Power Slave :-)
Back on topic as i can post piccys again, took some of the stash tins for scale.
Dug around and found some small bookshelf "L" brackets so i have fitted my rear rack, will see if i can somehow attach a tin so it's hidden/semi hidden within the rack, only want to leave a tube and levers, no other tools in case they are used to nick things off the bike.