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Bands students listen to are cool. Student bands (whose members don't intend quitting being students) aren't. Just in the way Sunday painters aren't.
But listen, we're all trying to make art even if we don't say it out loud. Unless we're trying to make product. Which I wouldn't accuse even HMHB of. I don't really know who Nigel Blackwell is but I reckon any backing away from the idea that a performer's an artist is alien to the northern working class aesthetic (Cf. loads of people).
Of course second-rate is a stupid thing to say. And snobby. I just remember hearing this stuff the first time round and even then it sounded (to me) like comedy's supposed to sound. You know what I mean? Like a BBC3 sitcom sounds the way comedy's supposed to sound and people laugh after the punchlines because that's the sound they know's supposed to come next.
But that doesn't mean anything. I laugh at Lenny Bruce because I really want to be in that gang. My laugh is just as crappy (or not) as yours. (Obviously mine is a bit better, but let's just say).