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• #4177
is the crank not in fact a 'power meter spider' that fits to compact cranks, with standard rings?
That's what it looks like. It also looks like the bastard grandson of William Heath Robinson and Rube Goldberg
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• #4178
Is horrifique.
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• #4179
An idle question for research purposes;
What method do people use to set their power zones? FTP test? MAP test? Something else?
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• #4180
Guesswork
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• #4181
I've always done FTP test on the turbo, either a 2 x 8' or 1 x 20'. I've bookmarked an article on MAP testing though as I'm interested in how the results would compare.
Anyone tried both?
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• #4182
David Brailsford's Little Book of Power, page 28.
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• #4183
P2M coming my way. Time to quantify all the things.
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• #4184
ftp.
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• #4185
I need to do something about my HR zones. Currently I just tell my garmin/TP how incredibly old I am tell it I want a 5 zone break Down.
But rides on non-powermetered bikes always get a far higher 'zone rating'.
The obvious answer is to get a track PT.
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• #4186
Bikes with powermeters, for everything else, there's ebay.
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• #4187
A not-a-proper-FTP-test 20 minute session on a track during the winter. During the summer I occasionally go and blast up @Cycliste's local Alp to try and see what I can do over 20 minutes.
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• #4188
"We could have made them smaller, lighter and have the batteries last 3-4 times as long, you know like the ones we use already in all our hubs, but AAA made sense because magnets."
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• #4189
I didn't get that either:
- CR2032 aren't exactly obscure;
- are readily carried with your multi-tool & tube etc;
- the pedals are porky compared to the competition.
- CR2032 aren't exactly obscure;
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• #4190
What does the book say Andy?
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• #4192
I've only read it fully once, but I don't recall anything in the Bible about power testing protocols. It must be in Revelations somewhere though.
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• #4193
On the fourth day the Lord said unto Adam; read the Coggan book - do not eat the fruit from the powermeter thread on lfgss.
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• #4194
Thats bloody interesting. I'm going to look into that.
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• #4195
I'm not asking for advice btw, I'm just doing a small bit of research for work. I'd always do an FTP test but a colleague thinks MAP tests are more common.
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• #4196
I did a MAP test earlier this year - would have put my FTP at 315 watts.
The result of a (very poorly done from my side) Trainer-Road FTP test session put it at 257.
I think it's somewhere between those two figures, but I'm more sure that the Trainer Road session was low than the MAP was high, if that makes sense - I had someone shouting at me for the MAP test. However, it is too high.
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• #4197
I'd have said ftp tests are more common. You can even have strava calculate it for you from a period of your choosing. But I guess most just smash 20mins and then calculate it.
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• #4198
FTP % of MAP will properly rises and you become more trainied, but not by much.
Map tests are a good, repeatable, reliable way of testing improvement.
Some will be better at a map than 1h FTP/20 min FTP test. Some won't be able to suffer.
But it's still repeatable.I'd rate MAP tests as a method of tracking improvement.
Though if you want to know what your FTP is, go out and do a 40k TT when rested. That's what it is, everything else is an estimation. -
• #4199
FTP test, exactly as described in Coggan and Allen. Could include an option for both though I guess.
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• #4200
Sorry - I hadn't put 2+2 together there.
Fwiw - I either do the Coggan test, or use TT race datas.
Kinky...