• threshold as in unable to swallow spit as the time taken to so do would prevent a vital breath from being taken

    Kinky...

  • is the crank not in fact a 'power meter spider' that fits to compact cranks, with standard rings?

    That's what it looks like. It also looks like the bastard grandson of William Heath Robinson and Rube Goldberg

  • Is horrifique.

  • An idle question for research purposes;

    What method do people use to set their power zones? FTP test? MAP test? Something else?

  • Guesswork

  • I've always done FTP test on the turbo, either a 2 x 8' or 1 x 20'. I've bookmarked an article on MAP testing though as I'm interested in how the results would compare.

    Anyone tried both?

  • David Brailsford's Little Book of Power, page 28.

  • P2M coming my way. Time to quantify all the things.

  • ftp.

  • I need to do something about my HR zones. Currently I just tell my garmin/TP how incredibly old I am tell it I want a 5 zone break Down.

    But rides on non-powermetered bikes always get a far higher 'zone rating'.

    The obvious answer is to get a track PT.

  • Bikes with powermeters, for everything else, there's ebay.

  • A not-a-proper-FTP-test 20 minute session on a track during the winter. During the summer I occasionally go and blast up @Cycliste's local Alp to try and see what I can do over 20 minutes.

  • "We could have made them smaller, lighter and have the batteries last 3-4 times as long, you know like the ones we use already in all our hubs, but AAA made sense because magnets."

  • I didn't get that either:

    • CR2032 aren't exactly obscure;
    • are readily carried with your multi-tool & tube etc;
    • the pedals are porky compared to the competition.
  • What does the book say Andy?

  • I recommend a 40km TT then this.

  • I've only read it fully once, but I don't recall anything in the Bible about power testing protocols. It must be in Revelations somewhere though.

  • On the fourth day the Lord said unto Adam; read the Coggan book - do not eat the fruit from the powermeter thread on lfgss.

  • Thats bloody interesting. I'm going to look into that.

  • I'm not asking for advice btw, I'm just doing a small bit of research for work. I'd always do an FTP test but a colleague thinks MAP tests are more common.

  • I did a MAP test earlier this year - would have put my FTP at 315 watts.

    The result of a (very poorly done from my side) Trainer-Road FTP test session put it at 257.

    I think it's somewhere between those two figures, but I'm more sure that the Trainer Road session was low than the MAP was high, if that makes sense - I had someone shouting at me for the MAP test. However, it is too high.

  • I'd have said ftp tests are more common. You can even have strava calculate it for you from a period of your choosing. But I guess most just smash 20mins and then calculate it.

  • FTP % of MAP will properly rises and you become more trainied, but not by much.
    Map tests are a good, repeatable, reliable way of testing improvement.
    Some will be better at a map than 1h FTP/20 min FTP test. Some won't be able to suffer.
    But it's still repeatable.

    I'd rate MAP tests as a method of tracking improvement.
    Though if you want to know what your FTP is, go out and do a 40k TT when rested. That's what it is, everything else is an estimation.

  • FTP test, exactly as described in Coggan and Allen. Could include an option for both though I guess.

  • Sorry - I hadn't put 2+2 together there.

    Fwiw - I either do the Coggan test, or use TT race datas.

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