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• #4502
Sorry Dan, I know this is a SRS BZNS.
FWIW Ardennes are fucking awesome.
(Dan knows this already as I shared it with him on Whatsapp).
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• #4503
picard.jpg
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• #4504
You tubeless?
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• #4505
No-one have any input on the H plus son grabby braking then?
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• #4506
Rim brakes are very CTC these days - maybe ask there?
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• #4507
What brake pads? I bought and sold a set before they could lose the anodising ;) They were fine with swisstop pads. No idea why people bother with them anymore now that Kinlin have come up with a wide rim which is cheaper and lighter ..
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• #4508
swisstop blue
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• #4509
Because they come in lots of colours. They're 2014/5's Deep Vees.
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• #4510
Why you winking motherfucker. Because the quality of Kinlin rims isn't as good as H+ Son.
Dan - I didn't find the braking very grabby. I thought it was good. Better than my current rims but not as good as Belgiums.
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• #4511
I've heard bad things about the finishing on the kinlins - also (again) not available in bike shops and not available in 32h. Jimbilly very kindly rebuilt my wheels in a hurry and they had Archetypes in stock, so that's what I got.
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• #4512
Because the quality of Kinlin rims isn't as good as H+ Son.
Is that true?
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• #4513
thanks Jake, finally some useful feedback. I've just given my brake blocks a light sanding, will see how they fare on the ride home.
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• #4514
yes
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• #4515
It most likely has nothing to do with the rim.
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• #4516
Who makes HPlusSon rims?
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• #4517
Almost brand new brake pads - with Sram Red callipers. Hard to think what else it could be.
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• #4518
So how come you didn't go for the DT Swiss R460?
;)
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• #4519
Couldn't get them in 32h in a hurry. Madison still don't have any stock in the UK.
Rim choosing process was expedited by rear rim cracking and me going to Mallorca tomorrow, so I just had to get them rebuilt quickly. -
• #4520
Yeah I was just teasing.
Maybe give both pads and the rim a thorough clean? Something relatively strong on the brake track area and then lots of light braking ~~until you leave. ~~ if you have time.
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• #4521
Installation error. With myself anyway. Everything but bar tape or change chain goes ever so slightly wrong. Then I go to a few bike shops that think nothing is wrong, have a laugh to myself at the ideas they come up with and bring it to the guys I trust who tell me what went wrong.
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• #4522
Once I'd worn away the braking surface anodising, the braking became better, also. So maybe the best is yet to come!
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• #4523
Hope so. Might just take some other wheels with me.
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• #4524
Had both hard grey ano (front & rear brake) and black ano (front brake only), with Swissstop green: no squeal, no judder, no nuttin' from the off.
So I'd go with it being something correctable, rather than component choice.
Personally I don't bother with toe-in.
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• #4525
I'm having a similar issue with some old anodised MA2 tubs. Squeely, juddery. SRAM Red calipers, stock green pads.
Just keep your brake pads clean.