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I doubt they do save £120 by swapping the rear end to 725, unless they charge more per unit above 1000 units than they do for 10 or below.
This frame is tig welded, not brazed.
I'm also pretty sure that your frame will be noticeably less stiff than this one. We can only resolve this one way though, so if you both don't mind donating your frames we can test them to destruction on my surface plate with a standardised weight (@edscoble) and my height gauge to measure deflection. I'm free this weekend.
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Genesis are your modern Scrooge bike builders - they save £120 from every frameset by only supplying an 853 main triangle. In profit terms, that's huge.
Every time you buy one, they're robbing you 120 notes! 853 rear triangle is going to be massively more rigid and robust (especially as its air hardening) over a typical brazed 725 rear end. And 753, in a lugged construction is going to beat it hands down.
Its just down to bean counters now, which is why the rush to carbon, as the profit margins/manpower/low skill cost are significantly better than actually building a frame.
In the trade, the story goes the real origin of Genesis frames is the Philippines..