• Are you guys really naive enough to think that the price of the product is just the production and material cost?

    Enve is designed and manufactured in USA so that's invalid for argument.

    Lets trek Trek as an example since you have taken the 'have you ridden it' pitch fork out. Yes I have a series 5 Madone. Its made in Taiwan. I also have another bike which is a copy of R3 also made somewhere far east.

    Are they worlds apart? Yes.
    Why? I think because the amount of R&D and design gone into Madone in Waterloo is massive compared to cheap knockoffs.
    Was madone/cheap carbon bike worth its price? Because horses for courses.
    If you are in love with expensive carbon why bother with cheap carbon? Same answer as above.

    Affordability and justification is a totally different issue. @dan is right.

  • The only thing Enve make in the USA is the rims and tubes for frame builders. Everything else is made in Asia. They are not very transparent about this but it is documented on the web

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