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@JWestland
You learn something new every day...
...today I learned the HT is only reamed so far, so stem can't be slammed & Strong light bolts are too long for sugino gran mighty + ring.
Sigh...
Its possible to get it reamed locally I'd say & I can buy new bolts but that and the stuck cog its a bit annoying
Edit: It seems in small frames the butting can stop a very slammed stem.