• Stating blanket bans of things like this is not very helpful as altho so people riding wheels built with cxray spokes (ssame stiffness as a laser or rev) would have constant problems and they don't.

    I'm not banning them, as you say CX-Rays have the same cross sectional area and they're fine if the right build is done. I just think Revs and other 1.5mm round spokes are utterly pointless, since there is no performance gain to be had. They're for people who weigh their bikes instead of riding them.

  • I almost agree with this. Revs are pointless when compared directly to CX ray from a function perspective. They are also a pita to build (excessive wind up). They do have one benefit that is missed here, they are significantly cheaper than CX ray. I used to spec them on budget light weight XC wheels when people still wanted these (in 26"). They work well in that context.

    My fixed trainer uses revs both front and rear, both 28h 3 cross on high flange Phils. Admittedly a bit of a fiddle to get right when building, but totally solid in use since.

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