• I had every man and his dog turning in Kennington Road this morning too. Cyclists bam along the bus lane too fast and undertake cars indicating to turn left across the bus lane way to often.

    It's especially annoying when I've stopped/slowed to allow the car to turn and one zooms past.

  • if the cyclist is moving straight on in the bus lane and the car is only indicating to turn left across the lane then the cyclist has the priority.

    Indeed but, as I'm sure you know, undertaking (or whatever you want to call it) a left indicating vehicle comes with a risk. The moral high ground ("I had priority") is useless when you're crushed under its wheels.

  • I see this as a matter of courtesy in many cases. If @doppelkorn has enough time to slow to allow an indicating, waiting driver to turn, then somebody on a bike who zooms up behind him and blithely continues on has either completely failed to read the road ahead or they're just a rude, selfish cunt. IMO. I doubt a courtesy stop when somebody else in front of you has already made a courtesy stop has ever killed anyone. I'm not reading anything in doppelkorn's post about those drivers who just slam over into the next lane without giving a fuck about who's there (tho they are utter dangerous pricks, obvs, and more so than the selfish/oblivious twats in circumstance #1 who only endanger themselves).

  • if the cyclist is moving straight on in the bus lane and the car is only indicating to turn left across the lane then the cyclist has the priority.

    I know this is correct, and I'm not having a go at DJ at all (just using his post as a handy summary of the correct position), but when I'm driving, I often see cyclists going down the bus lane, come towards the back of a stationary bus, stick their arm out and sail out of the bus lane and into regular traffic with the absolute conviction that the arm gave them priority to do so.

    On a slightly different note, at Vauxhall roundabout, there are two lanes of traffic, and often a stationary queue of traffic in the right hand lane. Cars try to move from left to right and get stuck not quite in the right hand lane.

    This means there is a slow moving queue of cars in the left hand lane moving across to the left to get around the stuck car. Yet so many cyclists seem so delirious in their happiness at going faster than prevailing traffic that they don't think about the risk of undertaking this queue. Again, they seem utterly convinced of their own priority.

    Sometimes I regret using more than one form of transport. It makes it hard to get properly zealous.

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