• I just hate talk of 'social conditioning' somehow mitigating what we do.

    Do you even ride a bicycle?

    Look at the pathetically small painted cycle lane we have*, look at how drivers behave when we choose not to ride close to the kerbs, look at how politician talk about segregation like it's the best idea ever to get out of the way for the number one ruler.

    Society tell us to ride as close as possible to the kerbs all the time, and then we get the blame when we get killed for doing so.

    *most cycle lane are narrower than that gap in the video.

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    Yes, I bicycle.

    The cycle lanes are often small. Thankfully we have the entire road we can use. What do you mean by ' how drivers behave when we choose not to ride on the curb' (seriously- I'd like an answer to this)? Because in my experience the majority are just fine- they let me out when needed, give me space, don't swear at me too often, and generally allow me to get where I'm going in one piece. If they didn't, I wouldn't commute by bike. If you're experiences are different, why do you commute (you do commute, don't you- I've seen you on the thread before)? There is the odd arsehole, or smidsy, but that- I think- comes with being around people. Kinda like being around cyclists.

    And to hear 'society tells us' from a man who cycles x hundred miles in one day- for fun- doesn't make sense to me. It seems to me that society actually tells us to buy a car (the number one ruler?) and watch the tv. But thankfully we're allowed to choose, within limits, how we live our lives. And in doing so we must take account for our individual actions. Which is perhaps why society- in the form of the daily mail, twitter, the police and the like- are now ripping into the driver for what he did.

    Edit- this is the 'report bad driver'- how can you post in this thread, designed to make people take responsibility for their actions (or at least to whinge about it when they don't), and deny that cyclists can carry that same responsibility?!

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