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i think i understand what your getting at but isn't islam all encompassing ? i.e. covers sharia aka LAW ?

And besides.

If it were possible to categorically show that all the fault lays at the feet of a sky wizard - Then so fucking what.

As for the vice link, I'm fine with it. I have no interest in watching it and as it has numerous content warnings I haven't watched it. If kids are browsing this then they can also decide for themselves.

Kids are cunts anyway.

some people make the mistake to think that if somebody criticizes Islam they somehow agree
with Christianity etc. This is not football.

I don't get your question, but I imagine a Sunni would have a different understanding of Sharia Law than a Shia? Same would go for the Hadith I would imagine.

Yeah, kids are normally quite good at that, aren't they - they're so mature and level-headed.

you were saying political dogma can be used to inspire a particular act in the name of a religion but you cannot blame the religion for that in particular . yet islam covers all walks of life including politics finance and law ?

i may be wrong but thats what i understand is the case

Some interpretations of it, yeah. Others no, they're all bollocks but not all crazy dangerous to others bollocks.

I still don't really get what you are saying. Sharia Law is Sharia Law; it's not Jihad.

If they're old enough to be browsing the news section of a weird cycling forum without supervision then they are likey old enough to make a decision about that.

Maybe, Snottyotter, but I still object to a video like that being made available, at the very least out of respect for the victim's relatives.

What on earth is going on in your avatar?

i don't think you understand , sorry to confuse i am not criticising the readings of islam and yes it can be interpreted differently by whoever chooses to . i was asking in a theoretical way whether islam covers politics .

It's horrible, but so was the shooting. The history of the media is littered with awful images of awful things, I think being allowed the choice to look at them or not is enough. The image of it would be awful for a relative to see, but having a choice to see it should hopefully prevent that. A shit tonne of people died in the twin towers attack, and although less graphic in some ways it's was still all over the news, and it was more horrifying in other ways and much harder to avoid seeing.

To some Islam is politics, to others it might influence it, to others it's seperate.

Sharia Law is politics

Yes it does but what does that prove? If I told you to help the poor and you interpreted that as steal from the rich then that's your problem not mine.

And what would be the moral and ethic problem with that?

Well I consider stealing to be wrong but feel free to insert any other misinterpretation.

You seem to think thee is only one interpretation of sharia. Much as an uninformed easterner may think there is only one bible.

While one group of Muslims think you need to kill all infadells, another group would say drinking a little wine is fine as long as you don't get drunk.

Anyway the reason for the estate agent comment was there was someone before who was a complete bell end and your comments remind us of him.

Husy, not always, if you steal from thieves it's ok. Can bring some different kind of problem but you may get awarded… it's a tough business though.

Stealing is fine, as long as you use an animal to steal things.

i.e Train robbing on horses, training a monkey to steal diamonds, mugging old women with a hamster up your arse.

Animals works better for the killing business, and not always anyway…

i don't know what it proves its a very complex subject but earlier in the thread it was said that political dogma influenced the acts in the name of a religion , not the religion itself , my point was the religion has a political agenda incorporated already , i am not saying it is to blame for the misunderstood fools who practice the death cult of isis or al quaeda , just saying there is a political dogma in islam .....