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  • How do you find the 5800 group in comparison to the Force group that was on it? I'm thinking of selling my Force group and buying an 5800 group.

  • For how cheap the 5800 group is now, just but anyway!

  • A tad heavier, but i only really noticed that when carrying it down from the flat. I wasn't using Force shifters before. But the 105 shifts just as well or better than the Rival/Force i was running.

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