If you support segregated cycling infrastructure in Hackney

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Vanneau

I'd like to see cyclists get a little more uniform/predictable on the roads, surely such a thing would help inch the environment to a better place for all users

This is a sound point. It's here that the most extreme version of the segregation argument tends to tie itself in knots: it's pushing the idea of 'making cycling safer' on the one hand, while refusing any suggestion of actually trying to cycle in a more organised / predictable way, despite this being one way of making cycling a safer activity in general, because then cycling in some way is no longer something 'anyone can do'.

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chameleon in reply to @Vanneau

multigrooves, vanneau

you can cycle as predictably as you like, be as experienced as you like, wear flashing lights, and still there can be some incompetent driver who drives into you from behind:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/cycle-death-daughter-may-prosecute-driver-9925170.html

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edscoble in reply to @chameleon

The solution is to stay out of the way then?

Surely a change in law and attitude would go a much longer way?
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dancing james in reply to @chameleon

Not sure what your point is. Dangerous drivers also kill pedestrians. There are segregated spaces for people walking yet drivers still manage to crash into and kill people on pavements too. It seems absurd to assume segregation into cycling ghettos will ensure drivers won't crash into people on bikes.

As @edscoble points out what is really needed is a change in the law and how these things are prosecuted will change driver attitudes.

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