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It's not difficult:
Entry level bikes sold as such = ok.
Entry level bikes sold as bespoke vintage hand-crafted track bike developed by deeply sexual Italian artisans and rolling on H+Son (I promise) and the slickest fixed gear finery = not ok.
Also not ok/damaging to reputation:
Selling mechanically unsound 'refurbishments'
Perversion of the great cycling lexicon to misrepresent products
Lying about Chinese manufacturers
Dressing up gas pipe and selling at BMC prices
Aggressive exchanges with forum members when called out on any of the aboveFor further info on unacceptable practices see Bad Traders thread.
tibbly
...guys let me understand, ok writing bad reviews on here as it's always been done for a lot of other brands, but why did the foffa thing became some kind of "nuke the bastard" campaign?
Did he steal your personal informations and sold it to the secret services?
Probably this debate was too long to let me understand what's behind it, but seriously, wtf is going on?
Do we like those bikes? No.
Do people still buy them? Yes, as long the bike trend it's actually a trend.
Did Foffa defend himself in a wrong way? Maybe, that's what little and disorganised businesses do.
And if the business it is actually disorganised and weak it will fade away, with or without this thread.
I just can't see where all this rage is coming from.
Go and ask the same questions that have been asked to foffa to the other dozens of "fixie/retro/concept wannabe bike brands" that operate in London and see how they can justify their pricing/ethic/distribution.
Curious and aware people will know how to understand if a deal is good or not. The rest can throw their money for whatever they like.
Saying that is better someone buying a shit bike for big money rather than someone buying a car for whatever the price is.
EDIT: Sorry @Psychkle but somehow I replied to your post, all this above wasn't direct to you ;)