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I've never been a fan of Dyche really. He's a steady enough lower league manager, but his tactical nous and player recruitment shortfalls don't help him as a manager of a Premier League team. When we went up with Davies (shudders) he single handedly fucked up the team with a series of shite signings making excuses about not having enough time to scout in the transfer window after he had himself a nice long holiday following the play off final.

Jewell didn't cover himself in glory either. Laurent Robert and Robbie Savage? Fucking joker...

Burnley had a great season last season, mainly down to the fact that there best performers (Vokes, Ings and Trippier) missed almost no matches. Ings has scored a few since regaining fitness and has looked decent enough. The rest of the team try hard, but there isn't any real Prem class there.

thanks, since I'm not following the championship I've no insight into whose hot and whose not managerial wise. Just wondering who the next good crop of young managers are, learning their craft lower down, and if they have enough to keep the team they get promoted up in the premier league, because it doesn't look like anyone whose team is already in the premiership is going to take a punt on an up and coming lower league manager anymore..

There are some good managers and tacticians below the Prem.

Steve McClaren (obviously) has proven himself to be a decent tactician and good squad motivator with an impressive contact list (along with our Director of Football Chris Evans) that should help if we get promoted this season.

Aitor Karanka has learnt his trade under Mourinho whilst at Real. He's got Boro playing good football and will have some good knowledge and contacts for the Premier League too.

Bob Peeters at Charlton, Mark Warburton at Brentford, Eddie Howe at Bournemouth. I'm not too sure if these guys would have the resources or knowledge base to make the right signings in the Premier League, but they have their teams playing well at the moment.

A little Christmas footy poem from a little free moment of mine to a large club of yours:

A ray of light filtered by an absinth bottle on the offside
Get in! shout "the voice, I will say not while I will go all the way out and in
Cementing myself into crime? No way, I'm far white collar more than due
Run my player, run and run you gorgeous rubicund dream of mine
The ball on your foot be aware of it don't let it slip on the right way
Red is the colour of the laces that you will eat
and eat is the Christmas gift that will make your dark home being heat
you giant running rottambolesco prick

Waiting for your next play I clap your hands and say can I may?

Are "abdominal crimes" hard to stomach?

Amazing.

Yeah yeah yeah, but that doesn't mean that I have finished with you, Clive.

Prole. in reply to @MultiGrooves

Mane's new club currently sit fifth in the league table, five points ahead of Liverpool.
Neglects to mention that he's only a bit part player at Southampton and has scored few goals. Also that Nastasic lost his place (to Demichelis?) and was quickly deemed surplus to requirements at City, so it seems a bit weak to hold up these two players as shining examples of Liverpool's failings in the transfer market when they'd also most likely be used to illustrate the same point had Liverpool signed them.>

This is one of the angles being spun and there will be stuff coming from the opposing camp. It highlights some of what is going on and when folk start putting this kind of stuff out, it usually means one thing.

Despite the weakness of the 2 examples used, you really couldn't suggest transfer dealings during BR's tenure have been even remotely decent? Would you trust him/the TC with a penny more?

I'm not sure they'll bin him....

I think they'll see what happens in Jan and if he can react. Keeper & Striker needed.. really needed

Arsenal are looking to loan out Sanogo and, as I doubt they'd loan to a direct rival, I'm sure Liverpool would be in with a shout.

@cp
The conclusion I've come to is for BR to stay he needs to get a defensive coach in. Also a top DoF that does the buying.

I've seen this mentioned a few times in the media. On the whole Burnley fans are pretty bemused by the suggestion that he could be anywhere near under threat. The expectation is that if he leaves it will be for a bigger club, not being sacked.

The last time we lost a manager partway through a premier league season (Coyle) we ended up with Brian Laws. No-one wants to risk that happening again.

Obviously before we had Dyche we had Howe managed and the generally held view is that Dyche is the better manager. Whether or not he'll be able to transfer his hard work and dedication ethos to a bigger club remains to be seen but he's well suited to a team that is mainly full of free transfers and cheap players (we have 3 players in the squad who cost over £1m).

A number of championship teams seemed to view us as tactically limited last year (often after we beat them) but, bearing in mind that Burnley are only Dyche's second management role and he's only managed 150 games (Howe for instance is double that), I think that's more down to him still learning rather than an inherent limitation.

Thanks always nice to get a more informed opinion, as I mentioned was just wondering what the state of play with burnley and dyche was, since if you manage apromoted team that sits in the relegation zone at the start of a season they generally aren't in charge at the end of the season....

Corny

Like Aggi I am a Burnley fan. What he said is accurate, I would just add that we have only sacked Law's over the last 10 years or so, everyone else has either left or not had a contract renewed. Dyche has got a lot of goodwill in the bank and seems a sensible chap.

If he goes to a bigger and better club, good luck - if he goes to a relegation and local rival for a bucket load of cash that's a different matter, see Owen C.

Well in City. Keep the pressure on the Scummers

Are you sure you're not forgetting anyone?

2nd at Christmas!

Which means ahead of Steve McClaren, the decent tactician and good squad motivator, Aitor Karanka with his good football, Bob Peeters at Charlton, Mark Warburton at Brentford, and behind only Eddie Howe at Bournemouth. Who is also better looking.

Mickma, mickma mickma...

Lamela with a left footed winner, wondering if he's starting yo win over the fans who think he's all show and no go?
I await tonight's motd with a certain lightness of step.

Lamela, or you prefer Coco, is doing what is paid for.. He DOES the game and kicks the balloon.. what a certain fans think and write of him on the internet is not of his concern, BTW he has people that can do that for him.

Said that, letting rest is OK, others can't use the internet on the weekend, when at home with the family they have to look good, on workings days instead they have more free time to spend for the typing, blogs, etc...
In other words, if I may say so, when you open a bottle of red, Argentinian or not, is always advised to let it breath, before drink it all.

Ipswich towns entire squad cost £10,000 (Tyrone mings). Tell me a better manager than the ever debonair mick McCarthy. I'm starting to believe this could happen! I'm off to Brentford on Boxing Day. Can't wait.

I'm not around for that, but I did get tickets for Southampton in the FA Cup.

Enjoy st Mary's. It's been a while since we did anything in the FA cup. Good to see goals coming from midfield today. Up the town!

Hopefully it won't be as bad as the 7-0 against Chelsea I witnessed from the Matthew Harding stand - among the home fans - a few years ago.

You need a better manager