If you support segregated cycling infrastructure in Hackney

Dis^.
I the thought Kingsland Rd/Kilburn Rd a strange comparison.

_Leon

yes MG you know how to survive and spread LOVE
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I don't like the "survival" angle you used, it might have been a little more apt in 2009 but not now. The overwhelming majority of my journeys take place without incident or accident and I get to my destinations in good cheer. I my comment came across as churlish, that was unintentional.

I can't help but feel that most of the of the issues I see, read about, watch on youtube and hear recounted could be solved by getting folk a little more street wise and getting to grips with the basics of psychology of fellow road users. Those that are most vocal about how limited training is are the ones that have never done it and will not contemplate doing it themselves, yet make the most noise for segregation.

It also strikes me there are loads that wanna ride in a bubble of safety, whilst listening to music, be able to tweet and pay little/no attention or interact with anything around them. If this infrastructure were to suddenly arrive and given what we've seen historically from the non-London cycling engineers would you want to be velokettled® into these cramped spaces with such a riders?

The idea of making roads useable for anyone between 9 - 90 is great but given the city's age, peculiarities and dimensions I can't see it. Next best thing is to make yourself the best rider you can be. It would surely iron out so much of the problems and fears of riders and potential riders. I just don't get why doing a course is seen as such a blight on your character. (I'm not saying that you can only be considered good it you've done bikeability either.)

The classic argument thrown back is that the roads only work for fast, strong and agile cyclists aged 20-35. But given the dutchtank I'm riding currently [usually very slowly] I've tried out the principles and they still stand up, if anything, the rides are more pleasant. I'd like to see cyclists get a little more uniform/predictable on the roads, surely such a thing would help inch the environment to a better place for all users?