• Why would you spend 1850-2000 on frameset+stem+front hub to then buy cheapish/old groupset? It's nonsense. Plus I think that groupset is ugly.

  • Why not? the old 105 is hardly inferior, those shifter design are quite comfortable for those with smaller hand.

    I spend a lots of money on my bicycle yet put 7 speed friction shift on them.

  • I'm no saying 105 is bad. I'm saying it doesn't fit the $$$ spend on the rest of the build. Why not buy ultegra?/ Why no buy a better looking groupset?

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