• In the absence of motorised vehicles of significant mass you also have absence of traffic lights.

    Accept this is London, population 9 million, not everyone wants to cycle. People want to sit in warm cars, and buses, and not physically exert themselves every day to and from work whilst battling the elements. I don't blame them.

    We will always have junctions and traffic lights, unless you want to completely level the whole of London and start again?

    no cyclist can argue with a bus that wants to pull in to the kerb.

    Why have you put yourself in the position of riding up the left hand side of a bus and the pavement?

  • Why have you put yourself in the position of riding up the left hand side of a bus and the pavement?

    Come on now, that's just comes across as trolling but I'll indulge you as you seem to be struggling. An example how you might find yourself being barged to the kerb by a bus through no fault of your own. Maida Vale, three lanes North, left hand bus/taxi/cycle. Given the distance between the lights a bus can easily top 30 mph up there. Then with the enormous amount of road space the bus can easily pull alongside you, and can then easily pull into the kerb while directly to your right. Was that so hard to fathom?

    How about the many slip roads that appear on your left while you want to go straight on? How do you avoid getting sideswiped by a vehicle in the wrong lane turning left other than just ceding the road?

    In the absence of motorised vehicles of significant mass you also have absence of traffic lights.

    Except this is London, population 9 million, not everyone wants to cycle. People want to sit in warm cars, and buses, and not physically exert themselves every day to and from work whilst battling the elements. I don't blame them.

    You've missed my point which is cycling interactions are generally so benign that formal junction signalling is unnecessary, cyclists generally co exist quite happily, cf the massive commuter pelotons in Holland. And where many right(UK left) turns are unsignalled though the junction as a whole is signalled.

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