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I don't know what the solution to getting more people riding is, I don't know if more segregation is better or worse, I've not ridden a bike in Holland or Copenhagen. But I have to say I absolutely cannot stand whoever the fuck these people who insult, belittle and deride people who aren't totally behind segregation, lycra wearers and the like. People like copenhagenize and people in smaller groups go out of their way to attack people who've made huge positive differences to cycling in this country, who have more or less dedicated their lives to improving conditions for cyclists and cycling in general, when as far as I know these people have done fuck all themselves other than making a lot of noise on the internet. Seriously, who the fuck are these arseholes?
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We're all allowed to have opinions, right? Well here's mine, from a perspective of just some guy who likes riding bikes.
I don't know what the solution to getting more people riding is, I don't know if more segregation is better or worse, I've not ridden a bike in Holland or Copenhagen. But I have to say I absolutely cannot stand whoever the fuck these people who insult, belittle and deride people who aren't totally behind segregation, lycra wearers and the like. People like copenhagenize and people in smaller groups go out of their way to attack people who've made huge positive differences to cycling in this country, who have more or less dedicated their lives to improving conditions for cyclists and cycling in general, when as far as I know these people have done fuck all themselves other than making a lot of noise on the internet. Seriously, who the fuck are these arseholes?
My concern with the many of the pro segregation arguments are that people don't ride because of a perception of it being dangerous. A: I think that's just an excuse many people use and they'd still use their cars most of the time because it's more convenient and; B: I know plenty of tootlers and non-lycra wearing, non 25-35 'testosterone driven males' who ride bikes every day in London. My ex rides a sit-up dutch style bike and she was scared of starting to ride but got free training with her local council, got the confidence and wondered what it was that she ever worried about.
I currently live in a city (Helsinki) that has a really shitty segregation system. I have to share with pedestrians, blithe dog walkers, motorised scooters and those fucking rollerbladers with sticks thing. And also cyclists coming in the other direction on a cycle path 1.5m wide. If I try using the road, I will get shit and could get fined. And yet tons of people cycle, because they don't know any better - and because running a car is absurdly expensive.