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Stop this shit now, it's stupid and it makes you look stupid.
This is a discussion forum, so why do you have a problem with having a discussion about something?
Maybe I've been a bit naive in my approach, and I agree that a couple of comments have been antagonistic, but I'm genuinely shocked how much anger has been expressed in less than a day on this thread. I'm interested to hear everyone's views. You don't have to shit down my neck because I disagree with you.
This is why I stopped hanging out on here in the first place.
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I'm interested to hear everyone's views
Though only if they agree with yours apparently.
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I'm not shitting down your neck because I disagree with you. It's not such a simple binaristic position as that. I actually think that there is a place for segregation. I might disagree with you on where and when those places should be but that's variance not dissent.
I'm shitting down your neck beause you've been saying some stupid shit. It's not stupid because I disagree, it's stupid because it's genuinely stupid. And I'm not angry either. Although I will admit to being a bit frustrated at watching you sabotage your own argument with poorly thought out ideas and statements. If you really want to get segregation in place then it isn't us that you have to convince. You'll need to convince authorities and people with money, budgetary responsibilities and political agendas. If you keep up like this with them it won't work. They'll smile, they'll nod, they'll commend you on something like their passion, they'll make some vague promises about involving you in future processes or something equally intangible and then they'll find a way to politely tell you to fuck off.
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Classic LFGSS faux outrage.
NotThamesWater
The_Seldom_Killer
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Why is safety based on age?
One of the young riders in my cycling club was quite able to ride around Sheffield city centre and out on major roads to Lincolnshire quite safely even back when I joined the club and she was about 13. Equally I was riding the PBP with a 74 year old guy back in 2011. He remarked how far a cry it was from rush hour traffic in his home city of Manchester. I saw him out a couple of months ago and he didn't seem to be horribly crippled or dead so I presume still able to be safe on the roads.
If Hackney PoB want to get support for segregations, one of the things they really need to do is drop this ridiculously fuckwitted notion that that the young and the old are inherently more vulnerable and fragile like a piece of fine china. Many of them are confident, capable and experienced riders. It's just shittily patronising to make these blanket assessments. Similarly there are plenty of people that fall within that miraculously safe age bracket who aren't confident, capable and experienced.
Stop this shit now, it's stupid and it makes you look stupid.