• @mattioats

    but there are the ones who don't cycle around, who can't walk far because of bad hips who might like to pootle down to the shops on Kingsland road

    I think there comes a point where you need to start looking at your definition of "anyone". I mean, you're saying that this kind of infrastructure is particularly useful for targeting infirm people making short journeys. @cyclelove is saying it's good for targeting all potential cyclists. Well, which is it? Who are you trying to get on bikes, and why?

  • It can be both. Older people are still potential cyclists as much as my parents who are still able to do anything, but wouldn't dream of getting on a bike in Manchester.

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