• Your SHEESH comment is really fucking patronizing.

    I grew up in a city that has segregated cycle lanes, built from the 70s - 90s, it was a spectacular failiure.

    One of the reasons for that is that car dependence was all-consuming in that location. Where I live in South London I feel that there's a similar car is the only way myopia among 'ordinary' people.

    I ride with a minor my son on the roads here and I tend to avoid a lot of the more useless 'cycle paths'. It's OK. I ride very defensively.

    The tone of your OP suggests you're new to London. Maybe you're not, but cycling in London isn't working for you. I would suggest that you might want to just try riding differently here for a bit before you assume it's terribly dangerous. It is a bit aggressive, but it's just how we are. In response to your SHEESH comment, one might retort: 'Have you ever cycled in the best city in the world before? Sheesh.' We're just pushy. We aint laid back, but we're bloody lovely when we get going. Maybe that's why it's an exciting, ennervating, incendiary place to live. Cycling here is wonderful. It really is. Just get into it, and forget the main roads.

    If you want to campaign for something, campaign to discourage private cars from our roads, and to make the burden of proof change that so many cycle campaigns want to see. Then there'll be no need for segregation.

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