Football

Clive old bean. You missed the point. You're comparing your starts to
when you've won the league. the three stars (there are three aren't
there?) show that you've only won the league 3 times from 6 of these
positions. One of these was "worse" than the position you are in now
(only 3 points, but the GF is worse, though, typically with Mo the GA
is very good). So, 1 out of 2 times in the positions after 12 games
where you've had 29 points or more you've won the league.

What would be informative is to see how this stacked up against clubs
with more history in winning championships than you.

Damo, you very dear man.

I think you have misread the table. This season, which is 2014/5 we have 32 points after 12 games which is the best that we have achieved in the past 20 years. You appear to be looking at the last Ranieri season, 2003/4 when we finished second to an unbeaten Arsenal side.

What would be informative is to see how this stacked up against clubs with more history in winning championships than you.

In the timeframe of those stats there is only one team that has won it more. Man U. 11 times. Arsenal 3 have won it 3 times, Chelsea 3, Man City 2.

I've not got all the stats but last year Arsenal were top of the league after 12 games last year with 28 points Man City had 22 points, 12/13 Man City were top with 28 Man U had 27, 11/12 Man City had 34, 10/11 Chelsea were top with 28 Man U had 24, 09/10 Chelsea had 30, 08/09 Liverpool were top with 29 but Man U won the league, they had 21 points at this stage.

Man U have had a history of slow starts so they are usually the team that wins without being on top at this stage. They have never been this far behind in points though.

It seems like teams with more than 30 points at this stage usually win.

The point Cliveo was making about the stats is pretty clear. In the last 20 years, after 12 games Chelsea have never been as badly positioned as Liverpool are now.