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• #9152
On that note, whilst searching I've been avoiding cameras with lenses slower than f/2 really,
although going from a crop sensor camera with a 30mm 1.4 lens, to a 35mm film camera with 42mm 2.8 such as on that olympus, the minimum depth of field possible won't be all that different right?
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• #9153
well it depends what size crop sensor but there won't be a huge difference either way, both will create very useable images. I'd say forget going for the widest aperture you can and buy the Olympus but if you really want that narrow DoF the the cannonet gIII ql17
Has an f 1.7 40mm lens.http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Canon_Canonet_QL_17_GIII
Imo the Olympus lens is sharper and the camera a lot more user friendly.
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• #9154
Fwiw here's a random image from a 35mm sensor and 40mm lens at f2.8 just because I sometimes find it more useful to look at examples rather than numbers.
Background is not completely blown but it's more than adequate for most stuff, I've got lenses going down to f1.4 and on manual focus cameras I rarely use them.
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• #9155
Cheers fella, all useful info :)
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• #9156
I'm going to keep looking for a rangefinder, but if anyone has any tips for a film noob (apart from teh array of info already out there haha) I would appreciate!
Would help to know what your price range is, and what sort of pictures you're after / how you're going to use the camera.
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• #9157
Yashica electro 35 gtn/gsn. Can be picked up for about £40 or less. Similar to the Lynx but not as expensive, great 1.7 lens. I love mine.
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• #9158
I did reply earlier but my phone apparently disagreed -.- and definitely should have provided more info
Price - no more than £100 maximum, i know there's value to be had way lower
Use - probs just general street photography if I'm just trying the medium out. WIll leave the specific stuff and all the myriad lenses to the dslr. I use my 30mm 1.4 on the crop sensor for all round stuff so I imagine 45-50mm would be nice.
Size - That was definitely one of the big draws of rangefinder cameras that I should look for, even though I was going to buy the Yashica Lynx 14 which is a tank...
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• #9159
Cheers for the input fella,
I was looking back over recent pages and I loved your ones on page 363, taken with the Yash? -
• #9160
Yea, there are a lot of very nice rangefinders (also below £100), most of them are tanks though.
If you don't mind this it's cool, but in the end this means you'll not just put this in your pocket, but need a bag or shoulder-strap, or you're not going to take it with you.
Are you really sure you need / want a rangefinder (as in: rangefinder-patch manual focusing) ?
Or does AF maybe make sense for what you're actually going to do with it?
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• #9161
Yeah that's cool, I've still always got the s90 if I want something really portable to take along...
It sounds like a fun side project to try a whole new method of taking pictures, and I'm quite happy to give up AF along with it. (famous last words...)
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• #9162
Well then choose one based on lens quality within your budget range - one that you like, as in: it's important you like to pick that thing up and use it (like you immediately had an reaction to the XA series (which I would have recommended as well) - it just isn't for you apparently).
Have never owned the Yashica @nefarius mentioned, but everyone I know that used one loved it.
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• #9163
The Yashica Electro is a tank, but it consistently surprises me with great images and I never regret taking it out.
I think it's a great option as it's easy to get to grips with, takes great photos and isn't too expensive. The XA is great but it's a fiddle, the rangefinder window is dim and even with my less than massive hands, it can be difficult to shoot with. I love mine, and the control you get with such a small camera is never really matched at the same size by anything else but I just think the Electro is a better choice for a first foray into rangefinder cameras.
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• #9164
Loved the shots coming out of my electro, but using it with glasses was tricky as it has a metal eye-piece + a fairly dark rangefinder window. Can't say anything bad about the rest of the camera though
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• #9165
Really - my electro has a really bright viewfinder!
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• #9166
Luck of the draw that. Rangefinders get muggy and fog up. Bought two at one point. One from the U.K (mint externally only) and the other from Pakistan. The latter had one of the crispest windows I've ever used.
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• #9167
Have just posted seven rolls to Ag-Photo. Two of which are Velvia 50....
Got a couple of rolls of Portra left. Hopefully this will provide the kick up the arse I need to get shooting more.
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• #9168
Any suggestions for a camera to start playing with "peel-back" instant pack film, e.g. Fuji FP-100C? It seems like there is a confusing amount of Polaroid Land Camera options, and perhaps some others.
Alternatively, does anyone (in London) have one they might be willing to part with?
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• #9170
in love with the second shot.
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• #9171
I have one for ya bro...
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• #9173
Possibly a little retarded, more statement than art, but interesting nonetheless.
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• #9174
Thanks man, they are all from DofE haha
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• #9175
Both with a Yashica T4.
I'd start with an Olympus 35rc, really easy to find on eBay at manageable prices. Simple to use, very reliable, small and has a fantastic lens on it.
http://kenrockwell.com/olympus/35rc.htm