• Both it and the Hope v-twin are evolutionary dead ends, a quick fix before full hydraulic systems were launched. They work okay, but not as well as full systems. £80 is not a bad price, but it's a quarter of the cost of the Shimano R685 fully hydraulic shifters.

  • it's a quarter of the cost

    Exactly. I understand it's not a cutting edge product anymore but surely good enough for a commuter at the price? Just wondered whether there were issues with bleeding, things breaking easily etc.

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