Varonha custom frame... And other ongoing stuff

Id be interested to know how you get on with those tyres, they look like the panaracers but half the price

6pt : I'll be happy with the silver anyhow... I have a battered one as well on my commuter that I could spray black too. I'm going to spray the bar end shifters holders anyway...

spotter: I pumped to 65psi last night (could not measure before only had a hand pump)... doesn't feel too bad actually for such big tyres... Will see how they ride... Shame Paselas don't do 38c... I had Paselas before, I can see the Schwable are definitely budget ones compared to the panaracers... can feel there's less thread per inch but more rubber, I'm pretty sure they can't feel as nice... but as you said, the price is real good.

Tom, your tyre we tried was a 38c right?

I think it was, yeah. Definitely a step up from 35, anyway.
On an A319 which is apparently a 25mm wide rim.

sure? I thought the last two numbers in a mavic rim name tell you the width

Ah, mine are older, with a white stripe:

The floors all yours, @6pt

I just typed it into Google and read what CRC told me. I'm almost certain they're wider than 19 though, as they're a touring rim with recommended tyre widths of 28 to 47 mm.

I'm glad to be wrong

Your rim was definitely wider than 19mm. I measured the open pro CD last night and they are just under 20mm wide (measured with a Made in France caliper)

We had some Road Cruiser at work, the thread pattern is pretty simple compare to the Panaracers, and they're a tad heavier too, however they appear to be tougher.

The folding Panaracer come in 37mm (realistically 35mm) at a modest 440g.

The very best (and most comfortable) 700c tyres I've tried is the new Compass Barlow Pass, it's 38mm* and the lightweight one (the sidewall is thinner) is 327g.

The normal one is 380g.

*high quality tyres stretch more, so at first, it's 35mm, then after several weeks, it stretch to 38mm.

The internal make the biggest difference, the benefit of bigger tyres are compromised on the narrower internal of the Open Pro (needing to pump them up higher to reduced that squrimy feel), the Open Pro AFAIK is 14mm internal (give or take), whether the A319 is a whopping 19mm internal.

Having said that, cyclocross rider for the last several decades have been riding big tyres on tiny rims, so it's not that big a deal breaker, though the early CX rider rode at a tiny 28mm!

If the A319 is the touring version of the TN719 then it's defy 19mm internal.

According to this, the A319 is 19.3mm internal, the Open Pro is not listed, but it very likely to be 14mm internal.

http://www.mavic.com/rims-road-triathlon-319

Is there a new verion of the A319 maybe?

I feel this may just be confusion over internal and external widths, and it's all irrelevant to the build anyway :)
(Outer width, 24.8 mm. Inner width, 19.3. Everybody's right!)

Doubtful, Mavic are retrogrouch and only keen on doing OEM.

Anyway, @veLLo, what bottle cages are you going to use?

Silly me I was talking about external width of rims... Anyway, as Ed said, tiny rim + wides tyres has been done before and works... I remember a time (none of you were born) when the thinner your rims were (MTB I mean) the cooler it was...

The folding Panaracer come in 37mm (realistically 35mm) at a modest 440g.

Didn't know that was an option... didn't find it when I looked... Next set then...

Re. Compass Barlow Pass... what did I say about obscure US sites? They look good though...

Anyway, once I've taken nice pictures of the bike I won't restrict anymore to gumwalls...

What did I say about obscure US sites?

That I should never accept a lift from a stranger?

Anyway, @veLLo, what bottle cages are you going to use?

Something nice and stainless steel... But that can wait... I think I have reach budget limit for the moment...

I NEED TO SELL LES THE LO-PRO...

Ah!

Do you need to sell les though? really? :(

Low pro is very 2013, 2015 is all about tandem.

Do you need to sell les though? really? :(

... yes... the space is an issue too...

Low pro is very 2013, 2015 is all about tandem.

Which is why I currently have two tandems (1 bike and 1 frame)