Can you help to identify these frames, bikes or parts?

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user49846 in reply to @anidel

Thank you anidel,
Moser is an interesting lead, will try to look for old Moser and see if any earlier ones were made with no panto's.

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anidel in reply to @user49846

It would be a very weird Moser. But those 'flowers' are similar to mine, as the fork crown (Amatori model) and same for the striped decals on the downtube and, lastly, the seat stays bridge.

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